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WikiTree 'Descendants of John Vesey' five-generation view, pasted directly by Helen. Same category of source as the earlier 'Descendants of Henry Hamer' pull.

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WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For John Hester Vesey & Sarah Ann Denmead

John Hester Vesey (1842-1898) m. Sarah Ann Denmead (1845-1923) on 1870, per WikiTree's 'Descendants of John Vesey' page (pasted by Helen). Twelve children: Lilias Catherine (1846-1901, m. Joseph Hammer - already the anchor of this whole project), Caroline (b.1846, likely her twin), James (1845-1895, m. Mary Jane Field/Fields - father of Harriet Lillias Vesey Sledge and siblings already being researched separately), John Hester (1872-1940), Amelia (1874-1929, m. Henry Pinne), James Ashton (1876-1933, m. Annie Wilson), Charles Blyth (1878-1938, m. Cecilia Patrick), Alice (1881-1945, m. Frank Yates), Walter Ernest (1883-1943, m. Ida Baker), David William (1885-1934, m. Mary Hitt), Mary Ann (b.1887), Albert Edward (1889, died as an infant), George Andrew (1891-1972, m. Ivy Gaylard).
WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For John Hester Vesey & Lillias Blyth

John Vesey m. Mary Swan on 5 Oct 1800. John Hester Vesey (09 Dec 1809-13 Nov 1850) m. Lillias Blyth (1804-1884) on 23 Oct 1838. Two children: John Hester Vesey (1842-1898, already in the tree) and Mary Elizabeth Vesey (1840-1929).

IMPORTANT CORRECTION: this places John Hester Vesey (81644, Lilias Catherine Vesey's father, already real from proposal #833) as a child of an EARLIER John Hester Vesey (1809-1850) and Lillias Blyth - a generation further back than previously mapped. Mary Elizabeth Vesey is his sister, making her Lilias Catherine's great-aunt, not her aunt as might otherwise be assumed.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For John Hester Vesey & Lillias Blyth

John Hester Vesey (1842-1898) m. Sarah Ann Denmead (1845-1923) on 1870, per WikiTree's 'Descendants of John Vesey' page (pasted by Helen). Twelve children: Lilias Catherine (1846-1901, m. Joseph Hammer - already the anchor of this whole project), Caroline (b.1846, likely her twin), James (1845-1895, m. Mary Jane Field/Fields - father of Harriet Lillias Vesey Sledge and siblings already being researched separately), John Hester (1872-1940), Amelia (1874-1929, m. Henry Pinne), James Ashton (1876-1933, m. Annie Wilson), Charles Blyth (1878-1938, m. Cecilia Patrick), Alice (1881-1945, m. Frank Yates), Walter Ernest (1883-1943, m. Ida Baker), David William (1885-1934, m. Mary Hitt), Mary Ann (b.1887), Albert Edward (1889, died as an infant), George Andrew (1891-1972, m. Ivy Gaylard).

CORRECTION: this WikiTree child list was previously cited only on family #32546 (John Hester Vesey 1842-1898 x Sarah Ann Denmead), which is impossible for James (b.1845), Lilias Catherine (b.1846) and Caroline (b.1846): their supposed father there was himself born 1842 and married Sarah Ann Denmead only in 1870, so he would have been 3-4 years old at their births. Those three are instead contemporaries of John Hester Jr (b.1842) and his sister Mary Elizabeth (b.1840, already recorded here on family #32573, John Hester Vesey Sr 1809-1850 x Lillias Blyth) -- i.e. siblings of John Hester Jr, not his children. James Vesey is being researched separately elsewhere in the tree and is not added by this proposal. The other nine adult children (John Hester 1872-1940 down to George Andrew 1891-1972) remain correctly attached as John Hester Jr's own children on family #32546 -- unaffected by this fix.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For William Henry Elliott & Mary Elizabeth Vesey

Mary Elizabeth (Vesey) Elliott (22 Sep 1840-1929) m. William Henry Elliott (1830) on 1855. Thirteen children born 1857-1883.

Thirteen children, several dying young (Arthur Vesey, Percival Alfred, and Walter Campbell all died between ages 20-23, within a few years of each other, 1900-1903). Their own marriages and children (Trompf, Bamford, Rogers, Watson families - a further 4 generations, roughly 40+ more people) are not included in this proposal - a genuinely large separate branch, flagged for a dedicated follow-up rather than folded in here.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For Henry Alexander Trompf & Catherine Amelia Elliott

Catherine Amelia (Elliott) Trompf (1859-1936) m. Henry Alexander Trompf (1855-1920) on 9 Nov 1882. Nine children and their marriages/descendants across three generations, per WikiTree's Descendants of John Vesey page.

FLAGGED: Cameron Causon married Gwenda Muriel McLachlan - a THIRD independent McLachlan coincidence in this project, after the main McLachlan-Hammer family (Ballarat) and Myra McLachlan marrying Harrold Shepherd in WA. This one is in an entirely different context (the Trompf/Elliott/Vesey extended family), making a real connection less likely, but the recurrence is striking. Mark Dewar Trompf's own spouse and a further great-grandson are marked '[private]' on the source WikiTree page (living or recently-living people) and are not named here, respecting that redaction rather than guessing at identities.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For George Alexander Trompf & Mary Agnes Elliott

Mary Agnes (Elliott) Trompf (1861-1919) m. George Alexander Trompf (1863-1946) on 1887. Nine children and their marriages/descendants (Bamford, Watson, Darby, Harris, Tait families) per WikiTree's Descendants of John Vesey page.

Elvy Jean Trompf married Harold Ernest Watson in 1941 (family not yet formally created for that marriage, kept as a note here since the source gives no children).

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Questionable

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For John Walton Kerslake Barter & Mary Lyall Elliott

SELF: Mary Lyall Elliott; spouse: John Walton Kerslake Barter; date: 1904; place: Malvern, Victoria, Australia; died: 1960; reference: wikitree:Barter-534

WikiTree records them as spouses but this row carries no married/marriedAt fields (unlike the Bamford and Barnard rows above), so no marriage date or place is evidenced here. Union type left as married, matching WikiTree's own treatment and the tree's existing value; no MARR event added since no date is attested. Primary Victorian BDM marriage-index search queued (Chrome).

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For Archibald Salvador Harper & Henrietta Catherine Wilson

Twelve children of Archibald Harper and Angelina Gellento Cilento, per WikiTree's Descendants of Luigi Gellento page (pasted by Helen), previously entirely unlinked in this tree despite the parents and their marriage already being present. Archibald Salvador Harper's own marriage and three children also added.
WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For George Dennistoun Marshall & Christina Harper

Christina (Harper) Marshall (1884-1970) m. George Dennistoun Marshall (1877-1957) on 1909. Four children: Ivy C. (m. Claude Agett Lockyer 1931), George Watson (1913-1973), Frederick James (1919-1980), Mavis Myrtle (m. Othel Joseph Sloss 1949).

Ivy C. Marshall's own son Anthony E. Robson, and her second husband, are marked '[private]' on the source WikiTree page (living or recently-living) and are not added here.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Questionable

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For Claude Agett Lockyer & Ivy C. Marshall

Christina (Harper) Marshall (1884-1970) m. George Dennistoun Marshall (1877-1957) on 1909. Four children: Ivy C. (m. Claude Agett Lockyer 1931), George Watson (1913-1973), Frederick James (1919-1980), Mavis Myrtle (m. Othel Joseph Sloss 1949).

Same WikiTree pull already cited on the parent family (32660/citation 50638), reused here because it independently states this couple married in 1931. Compiled tree - lead only, year not day/month.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Secondary

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For William Henderson Harper & Marjorie Elizabeth Bennett

William Henderson Harper (abt.1896-1933) m. Marjorie Elizabeth Bennett (1897-1989) on 1918. William Roy (m. Aileen Joyce Jarvis 1941, m.(2) Norma Diana Massara 1949), Gweneth Joan (b.1921), Shirley Winifred (m. John Riggs Pearce, m.(2) Percy Pierce).

Shirley Winifred Harper married twice: John Riggs Pearce (surname sometimes spelled Pierce), then Percy Pierce - the source is slightly ambiguous about the surname spelling between the two husbands.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Questionable

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For John Riggs Pearce & Shirley Winifred Harper

William Roy (m. Aileen Joyce Jarvis 1941, m.(2) Norma Diana Massara 1949), Gweneth Joan (b.1921), Shirley Winifred (m. John Riggs Pearce, m.(2) Percy Pierce).

Same WikiTree 'Descendants of John Vesey' excerpt (source #1577) already cited on the parent family 32663 (citation #50639); names Shirley Winifred's first husband, John Riggs Pearce. The source gives no date for either of her marriages, so no MARR event is added here -- only the citation, which is enough to support unionType 'married'.

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) Questionable

WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family

For Percy Pierce & Shirley Winifred Harper

William Roy (m. Aileen Joyce Jarvis 1941, m.(2) Norma Diana Massara 1949), Gweneth Joan (b.1921), Shirley Winifred (m. John Riggs Pearce, m.(2) Percy Pierce).

Same WikiTree excerpt (source #1577) already cited on the parent family 32663 (citation #50639); names Shirley Winifred's second husband, Percy Pierce. No date given, so no MARR event is added -- citation only.