WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view)
WikiTree: Descendants of John Vesey (five-generation view) · Vesey family
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WikiTree 'Descendants of John Vesey' five-generation view, pasted directly by Helen. Same category of source as the earlier 'Descendants of Henry Hamer' pull.
Charles Blyth Vesey (1878-1938) m. Cecilia Maud Patrick (1880) on 1903. Clement James Vesey (1904-1980) m. Annie Isabel Pyke (1910-1988) on 1954. Sydney John Wilton Vesey (1909-1976) m. Grace Stewart (1919) on 1939.
Same passage already cited on the parent family #32566 (citation #50577, WikiTree 'Descendants of John Vesey' five-generation view, pasted directly by Helen) but never attached to this couple's own family record. Reproduced verbatim from that existing citation - not re-fetched this session. Matches this family's existing startDate (1939) and both spouses' recorded life dates exactly.
John Hester Vesey (1842-1898) m. Sarah Ann Denmead (1845-1923) on 1870, per WikiTree's 'Descendants of John Vesey' page (pasted by Helen). Twelve children: Lilias Catherine (1846-1901, m. Joseph Hammer - already the anchor of this whole project), Caroline (b.1846, likely her twin), James (1845-1895, m. Mary Jane Field/Fields - father of Harriet Lillias Vesey Sledge and siblings already being researched separately), John Hester (1872-1940), Amelia (1874-1929, m. Henry Pinne), James Ashton (1876-1933, m. Annie Wilson), Charles Blyth (1878-1938, m. Cecilia Patrick), Alice (1881-1945, m. Frank Yates), Walter Ernest (1883-1943, m. Ida Baker), David William (1885-1934, m. Mary Hitt), Mary Ann (b.1887), Albert Edward (1889, died as an infant), George Andrew (1891-1972, m. Ivy Gaylard).
Charles Blyth Vesey (1878-1938) m. Cecilia Maud Patrick (1880) on 1903. Clement James Vesey (1904-1980) m. Annie Isabel Pyke (1910-1988) on 1954. Sydney John Wilton Vesey (1909-1976) m. Grace Stewart (1919) on 1939.
Walter Ernest Vesey (1883-1943) m. Ida Christina Baker (16 Sep 1894-1954) on 1913. George Hester Vesey (1914-1983). Ida Violet (Vesey) Nicholls (1916-1968). Keith Vesey (1920-1921).
John Vesey m. Mary Swan on 5 Oct 1800. John Hester Vesey (09 Dec 1809-13 Nov 1850) m. Lillias Blyth (1804-1884) on 23 Oct 1838. Two children: John Hester Vesey (1842-1898, already in the tree) and Mary Elizabeth Vesey (1840-1929).
IMPORTANT CORRECTION: this places John Hester Vesey (81644, Lilias Catherine Vesey's father, already real from proposal #833) as a child of an EARLIER John Hester Vesey (1809-1850) and Lillias Blyth - a generation further back than previously mapped. Mary Elizabeth Vesey is his sister, making her Lilias Catherine's great-aunt, not her aunt as might otherwise be assumed.
Mary Elizabeth (Vesey) Elliott (22 Sep 1840-1929) m. William Henry Elliott (1830) on 1855. Thirteen children born 1857-1883.
Thirteen children, several dying young (Arthur Vesey, Percival Alfred, and Walter Campbell all died between ages 20-23, within a few years of each other, 1900-1903). Their own marriages and children (Trompf, Bamford, Rogers, Watson families - a further 4 generations, roughly 40+ more people) are not included in this proposal - a genuinely large separate branch, flagged for a dedicated follow-up rather than folded in here.
Catherine Amelia (Elliott) Trompf (1859-1936) m. Henry Alexander Trompf (1855-1920) on 9 Nov 1882. Nine children and their marriages/descendants across three generations, per WikiTree's Descendants of John Vesey page.
FLAGGED: Cameron Causon married Gwenda Muriel McLachlan - a THIRD independent McLachlan coincidence in this project, after the main McLachlan-Hammer family (Ballarat) and Myra McLachlan marrying Harrold Shepherd in WA. This one is in an entirely different context (the Trompf/Elliott/Vesey extended family), making a real connection less likely, but the recurrence is striking. Mark Dewar Trompf's own spouse and a further great-grandson are marked '[private]' on the source WikiTree page (living or recently-living people) and are not named here, respecting that redaction rather than guessing at identities.
Mary Agnes (Elliott) Trompf (1861-1919) m. George Alexander Trompf (1863-1946) on 1887. Nine children and their marriages/descendants (Bamford, Watson, Darby, Harris, Tait families) per WikiTree's Descendants of John Vesey page.
Elvy Jean Trompf married Harold Ernest Watson in 1941 (family not yet formally created for that marriage, kept as a note here since the source gives no children).
James Edwin Elliott (1867-1946) m. Jane Edward (1868-11 Mar 1944) on 26 Aug 1891. One daughter, Mary Lyall (Elliott) Barter, m. John Walton Kerslake Barter, with one son, Neil Barter.
Twelve children of Archibald Harper and Angelina Gellento Cilento, per WikiTree's Descendants of Luigi Gellento page (pasted by Helen), previously entirely unlinked in this tree despite the parents and their marriage already being present. Archibald Salvador Harper's own marriage and three children also added.
Christina (Harper) Marshall (1884-1970) m. George Dennistoun Marshall (1877-1957) on 1909. Four children: Ivy C. (m. Claude Agett Lockyer 1931), George Watson (1913-1973), Frederick James (1919-1980), Mavis Myrtle (m. Othel Joseph Sloss 1949).
Ivy C. Marshall's own son Anthony E. Robson, and her second husband, are marked '[private]' on the source WikiTree page (living or recently-living) and are not added here.
William Henderson Harper (abt.1896-1933) m. Marjorie Elizabeth Bennett (1897-1989) on 1918. William Roy (m. Aileen Joyce Jarvis 1941, m.(2) Norma Diana Massara 1949), Gweneth Joan (b.1921), Shirley Winifred (m. John Riggs Pearce, m.(2) Percy Pierce).
Shirley Winifred Harper married twice: John Riggs Pearce (surname sometimes spelled Pierce), then Percy Pierce - the source is slightly ambiguous about the surname spelling between the two husbands.
Lilias Catherine (Vesey) Hammer m. Joseph Hammer (1839-19 Sep 1902) on 15 Jan 1863.
CONFLICT FLAGGED, not silently resolved: this tree previously had Joseph Hammer Sr's death as 1913 (source: Helen's own compiled family history, source #1503, explicitly noted there as 'not yet cross-checked against BDM or other civil records'). Two independent WikiTree pulls now - this 'Descendants of John Vesey' document and the earlier 'Descendants of Henry Hamer' document - both independently give 19 Sep 1902. Updated to 1902 on the strength of this recurring, more specific date; flagging clearly in case Helen's original 1913 figure has grounds not reflected in either WikiTree pull.
James Vesey (1845-1895) m. Mary Jane Field (1845-1937) on 1868. Duplicate-risk note: also being added independently in proposal #828 with fuller detail on his own marriage and children.
IMPORTANT: this James Vesey duplicates the 'james_patrick' person already created (as a pending tempId, not yet a real record) in proposal #828, which covers his own marriage to Mary Jane Field/Fields and children in far more precise detail (exact birth/death years for each child, confirmed via this same WikiTree source). Once both this proposal and #828 are approved, these two James Vesey records will need a person.merge - flagging now so it isn't missed. This proposal only establishes him as John Hester Vesey's son; his own family remains best documented in #828.